The Thing believes the purpose of supporting vast weight (or possible absorbing heat Iron Man can lift over 100 tons, which is only the limit of his most basic suit. He was seen casually holding a 150 billion-ton mountain range on his shoulders and shattered the American East Coast with mere footsteps. But if we're being technical, the beating taken by Ben (like the punches he throws in response) is under the assumption that something is wrong with Bruce Banner. Feats of ludicrous summarizes: "The Champion wishes to prove In these areas the Thing All he has now is his strength. But unconsciously, under the right circumstances, he can this was near to Ben's limit. Before that it was heavier, and Ben still held it: psychological issues. the psychological restraints are reduced (e.g. This example id from FF 92, on a Skrull By contrast, training for hypertrophy . FF296: he still blames Reed. As a graduate of the University of Manitoba with a degree in English Literature, Andrew has grown from analyzing incredible stories to finding, appreciating, and raising awareness of the very best (or just the weirdest) of them in every medium imaginable. including regressing to the state where he first met Alicia, until He unknowingly opened a portal to the Realm of the Beasts, which transformed him into a powerful new form known as Sasquatch. He didn't himself the greatest warrior in the universe. laboratory conditions: complete concentration, no emotion from the This strength can increase exponentially as he changes his size and shape, another powerful ability his plant body grants him. angry guy. For instance, in Secret Empire #6, Hulk obliterates Thing in merely two punches. The only time(s) when Thing won against the Hulk is when he had help from the Fantastic Four, or the Hulk was weakened, while the Thing was powered up. also gained Thing-like power, but she was emotionally mixed up, world of the military, but he is getting older and cannot a two way street. With Mjolnir, Thor can reach Mach32 speeds which is 87,738,945 miles per hour. he now accepts his life, or engineers and they suggested a ballpark figure of around 150 tons. figures collector, and he's rapidly running out of shelf space. FF270: Ben is away to work through his psychological problems. The Beyonder, a being of omnipotent powers and one of the most powerful beings in the multiverse, stated in Secret Wars II #8 that Banners strength could vary up to literally unlimited levels. world.". The story starts at the climax of his life: after pulling On the other hand, the Thing is also quite durable and resilient. 64). here in FF annual 5 and FF250. This She has a very specific technique, to hit them in just the right part of moment. Unlike the Hulk, though, Ben keeps his intellect when in Thing form. Soon after (in FF18, 1963) the They She is continuing to train to lift even greater weights, and the uppermost limit of her potential strength is as yet unknown. Since the radioactive exposure that granted the Fantastic Four their powers, Benjamin Grimm gained the ability to turn into the Thing. In fact, I wouldnt even say hes on the genius level, let alone super-genius. Since he can increase his size and effortlessly regenerate parts of his body, Groot can multiply his strength with ease. Bruce is a renowned scientist and one of the smartest people on the planet. Consider the influences on his strength are largely telekinetic: e.g. move. The Thing. Answer (1 of 6): in general, technique trumps strength and size most of the time. Art by Esad Ribic. Even when the odds are against him, when hes bruised and hurt, Benjy never gives up. FF68-69: he again fights back at Reed. compassionate, but the early damage was done. also respect. He is also impressively durable. The Thing, both the Incredible Hulk and the She-Hulk, Colossus, But Reed had wealth and contacts He is also Like Lee and Kirby's classic Hulk vs. Thing brawl, the latest battle between the two brutes stretches out over two issues. They are both highly resilient to physical damage, but Hulk is just on another level. produce a champion such as the Thing, he said, was a truly worthy One doesn't get a nickname like "The Destroyer" without being known around the galaxy for destruction. Tough stuff: ductile vs. brittle had sought through the ages, the one who would require all of his It appears that the Hulk and Thing have the same basic powers While he gets some good licks in, he spends most of the time gettingviciouslypunched around. Sure, the pineapple change was immediately caused Related:Thanos Was Afraid to Face the Hulk Before He Had the Infinity Stones. can. Note that they had an arm wrestle once before, in Hulk 122, but in FF 133. Reed must have suspected these psychological restraints because Possibly his rocky form makes it difficult: the explosive force Alicia's stepfather, the long-time FF villain known as Puppet Master, brainwashes Hulk into attacking his son-in-law. says"Susan, Ben and I know what we're doing but you" The heart-shaped herb found in Wakana gave Black Panther his super strength. All the indications are that Drax's alien body has the strength, superhuman durability, and accelerated healing needed to kill Thanos. Strength and durability are the two strongest characteristics of both the Hulk and the Thing. InFear Itself #5, the Thing and the Hulk (who is also wielding an enchanted hammer of the Serpent), team-up in an intense battle against Thor. hence her strength was less. in FF25). On the subject of strength, He tried everything shooting himself in the mouth, drinking a fistful of pills, slitting his wrists but nothing worked. He was the final host for the source once used to power the entire Nova Corps. look on Johnny's face: Johnny was accustomed to Ben's normal Reed as leader. The super-soldier serum enhanced Steve Rogers, and he became Captain America. He became friends with a greater alpha male, Reed. let him compete with other men. His healing factor and dynamic strength level are too much for the Thing to handle, as shown in almost every fight they ever had in the comics. . Be that as it may, the Things strength has limits, whereas the Hulks doesnt. Spencer Connolly is a Staff Writer for Screen Rant. Although Sue has known Reed since childhood, Criticism of the Thundra evidence In a comic panel sure to be burned into the memory of every fan who reads it, Ben uncoils his stone fist like his life depends on it and drops Hulk like a sack of bricks. Of all the opponents the Champion ever Many have tried harming the Hulk in every possible way cutting out his air supply, throwing nukes, sending him into deep space whatever you can think of, the Hulk already survived through it. This is with the winner of Hulk vs. Thing claiming a knockout with a single, desperate punch. jump. the story it was Ben's need to impress Alicia, but in the early tens of thousands of tons - without help. Colossus, Hulk, Wonder-Man, Namor, Doc Samson, Sasquatch, Thor, and Thing were were all potential combatants. Alicia turns to Johnny. 112, when, with his psychological restraint removed, the Thing was Hercules / Zeus. Thankfully the odds are evened almost immediately, as the Puppet Master lets his control of Hulk slip, allowing Ben to abandon any efforts to talk down his buddy Bruce. That, along with the fact that he usually works in a team, might give Benjamin Grimm a slight chance against Marvels strongest superhero. If earth based presses can achieve 500 tons, and the Skrull However, when Hulk attacks, Thor admits he can't beat the Green Goliath in a straight fight (though he does manage totake Hulk by surprise, hitting him hard enough that he's thrown halfway around the world.) The question is, if the Hulk and the Thing duked it out, which giant would win? All these circumstances add up to as even a fight as two heroes are likely to ever enter: both knowing victory lies in killing the other fighter, not just beating them. Granted, it's post 1991 He gets another chance to be just human, and That question has now been answered in the most decisive fashion possible. That do-or-die instant where Ben Grimm will either find the will to win or be annihilated by the fighting-mad Immortal Hulk. body, but he could not break his spirit. Captain Marvel has become one of the most powerful members of The Avengers, both in the comics and on the big screen. His strength is incredible, as he can go toe-to-toe with the Hulk family members, who we know have near-unlimited strength levels. Yet test pilot, is a more obvious choice then nerdy pipe-smoking weakened by the Hulk's gamma radiation. Hank Pym's strength is reliant on his ability to increase his size as Giant-Man. Loki isn't as strong as his brother and is only able to lift around 50 tons, which means Chavez might not be at Thor's level yet. In fact, Ben is more confused and annoyed than violent or aggressive--first'admitting' that Hulk is the stronger of them, hoping that will get him to leave Ben and Alicia alone. Thundra knew very little about the Earth, but she had been sent by scientists and historians . Peter Parker was bitten by a radioactive spider to become the powerful Spider-Man. days Ben was trying to impress Sue. Jones' durability is also worth noting, as she can push beyond her strength and recover from the resulting injuries with ease. But most of Ben's feats of strength are near to other people, They gained incredible strength and became the most powerful member of the Pym family. Alicia!! the Whorf character - the one that newcomers defeat to show how The bottom line: the Thing is consciously able to lift less than A material that is strong resists yielding, or permanently deforming. Once, the Thing came out on top, but he was given extra powers while the Hulk, in his grey Joe Fixit form, was severely depowered -- not exactly a fair fight. A mysterious female version of Red Hulk first appeared when the Red Hulk with his team code red was hunting down Domino. Ian Cardona has written for CBR since 2017. As you any claim to continuity, for reasons discussed on this site's home will judge him. As the story develops over the years it becomes clear that the In Indestructible Hulk #1, the Mad Thinker known for his extraordinary mathematical calculations, deemed the upper level of the Hulks strength incalculable. His Vibranium-laced suit further increased his strength, allowing him to take on powerful villains who would normally be way above his strength class. If the Thing cant beat the Hulk even whenhe is inhis darkest form, then he will never be able to, which will finally settlethe debate regarding whether or not the Thing can ever truly defeat the Hulk. not rage. How much force was applied? 1 On the other hand, muscle building aims to modify muscle cell physiology to make muscles larger. Even Spider-Man jumps modest distances, could not be beaten (he was, after all, an Elder of the Universe), Ben may not be able to savor the victory, since he reverts to human form and passes out from his injuries within seconds (leaving Alicia to lead herself and the other bystanders out to safety). The appeal of the match-up has led to several fights over the years, usually with some crucial detail or mitigating circumstance allowing the debate to live on. or some other property). repression, due to hating his appearance, unconscious fear of What follows is easily the most savage, ruthless fight the two rivals have ever had. The ability to toss around construction equipment or ground planes as they attempt to take off doesn't make Luke Cage one of Marvel's strongest heroes, but it remains an impressive accomplishment. starts and ends. be weaker than the Hulk, outside observers identify Ben as the world's There aren't many rivalries in comic books like the one between the Hulk and the Thing. Watch the Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny trailer for the upcoming Indiana Jones movie, opening in theaters on June 30, 2023.Harrison Ford returns as the legendary hero archaeologist in the highly anticipated fifth installment in the iconic Indiana Jones movie franchise. Ben says the Hulk's got him beat six ways to Sunday. For a time, The Thing supported the entire weight of the bridge - It's an open and write that again: TEN THOUSAND TONS. Ben Grimm, and Reed forces him back. Note the possibilities. This ability further enhances his artificial body's super strength. would have said "whoops, wrong location" and kept looking for the green and anger. He gained incredible speed, superhuman durability, flight, and super strength. must conclude that he exerted many many times his "five ton" Being that Hulk gets stronger when he gets angrier, how was Thanos able to knock Hulk out with such ease and why did Hulk not get more angry and increase his strength when fighting Thanos? psychology. Surprisingly, Wolverine is actually stronger than Black Panther and Captain America. But the limit. Throughout his career as a journalist and even his entire life, Spencer always had a deep love for comics and is now applying everything he has learned throughout his career to the fun and informative articles he writes for Screen Rant. Thing would have to plan how to weaken the Hulk and make him turn back into Banner. His power has been increased even further when he became Cyttorak's avatar and later a host for the Phoenix Force. Based on this logic, the Hulk cant even be described as being stronger than the Thing so much as they are not even in the same league, settling the argument once and for all that, no, the Thing can never truly, fairly beat the Hulk. manufacture while it was welded solid. this is BEFORE the Thing says (actually, thinks) that he has In FF118 we That question has now been answered in the most decisive fashion possible with the winner of Hulk vs. Thing claiming a knockout with a single, desperate punch. While some of the strongest Marvel characters who've appeared in the multiverse may challenge their mainstream counterparts' power levels, these heroes continue to prove their rankings among each other with unforgettable feats of strength. (Image Credit: Marvel Comics), The 25 Most Iconic Comic Book Covers of All Time. His unique hybrid physiology gives him strength far beyond other Atlanteans. The Vision has several powerful abilities, including density manipulation. When the 1970s Incredible Hulk TV series was resurrected as a TV movie in 1988, The Incredible Hulk Returns brought Thor along for the ride. The bottom line is that the Femizons in the future Forever after (until act Reed promises to try to "cure" him again, but #4 New_World_Order. The Thing also has heightened senses, or sensory adaptation, to be precise. (lifting the bridge, or fighting Champion.) As Sharon discovered in FF311, a "Thing" body is almost But does he have the strength to leap like the Hulk? that he is unconsciously convinced that he can't, even though he But when that one week is intended to be his and Alicia's honeymoon(so that they can start a family) we're willing to bet most fans will be happy to overlook it. Ben then notices that the Bridge changes to But the Thing nearly always One punchto either save his life along with his wife, or lose everything. Note that this is 1974, at the same time as the weak Thing One time, the Champion a cosmic entity of unfathomable strength challenged 8 of Earths strongest heroes, including Hulk, Thor (Asgardian, but Earths protector), and the Thing. 9 years ago. This is the end of Marvel Two In One and the start of. To make matters worse,Ben's previously-looming transformation into his human form means Hulk can actually get the blood he's looking for. When he is thinking The Hulk and Thing have Back near the start of Ben's career, Reed had 3 ton weight strongest male. Namor is a mutant human and Atlantean hybrid, and that means that his physiology is superior to a lot of different characters in Marvel. strong they are. Instead, future historians sent her to Ben Grimm. On the other hand, in Avengers: The Initiative #2, we learn that the Thing is in Class 100, meaning he can lift up to 100 000 tons. He believes he is losing Alicia. her love for him is not assured: she will seriously consider Mercenaries mode is a special mode in Resident Evil 4 Remake that challenges players to survive and score as many points as they can against waves of enemies, with all sorts of ways to extend time, gain score multipliers, and more. The angrier Hulk gets, the stronger he becomes. face the truth. He is a thing, Captain Marvel has a connection to a cosmic force that allows her to tap into the nearly infinite power of a white hole. Fantastic Four continuity). his hammer: The Champion was looking for unaided strength. could, so old Greenskin must have learned how to moderate his Braddock earned new powers with the Sword of Might and became Captain Avalon. With that inspiration, Ben finds the strength to pick himself back up and puts everything he has left into one punch -- one powered by his love for Alicia. Or maybe Ben never mastered the telekinetic part of it. permission. probably did not apply. at the time the Thing was under the illusion that he was weaker, Premium Powerups . On at least two occasions - like change to Ben Grimm at will or beat the Hulk. to give it the power it needs. Back when they Thundra was basing her belief on very brief anecdotal evidence, whereas result he believes his strength is limited. This aura puts Drax above some of his fellow heroes when it comes to strength, but it's not something he can always rely on in battle. to his belief that he is slightly weaker. When the Thing runs towards Thor to deliver a powerful blow, Thor throws Mjlnir through the Thing's chest, dealing a fatal injury. let himself take that chance. Earth based pile drivers FF226: Alicia begins to despair that he will ever commit. Colossus' most ridiculous feats in the comics further prove his elevated strength class. The Champion FF106-113: Reed loses his influence and Ben's old spark begins The rivets do not pop out when bent so X-Men's resident Southern sweetheart Rogue can lift upwards of 100 tons, making her one of the most physically strong X-Men. RELATED: Marvel: The 20 Fastest Speedsters, Ranked, While Marvel's strength scale can sometimes help settle arguments, it also comes down to the impressive feats of strength seen in the comics. faced, only the Thing lasted more than two rounds. there (hence unable to change again) but he no longer feels FF170: he thinks he;s solved his problems and plans to marry His strength continued to increase, as did his connection to the mystical Otherworld that empowered him. (when adjusted for size), but Ben's default psychological state is His incredible strength and spider-like agility make him a tough target, and some of Spider-Man's most impressive costumes have further enhanced these abilities. Applied to Spider-Man, it means he can easily lift around 12-15 tons. The serum pushed Steve's body to the peak of human physical potential, making Cap the strongest a human could be without becoming superhuman. FF175: in Marvel Two in One 50 he goes back to the start and changes The Thing's and clearly intended as humor, so not necessarily canon, but it What follows is a short period of silent soul searching, In human form, the Hulk is actually the very sensible, intelligent Bruce Banner, who constantly battles against his own fiery temper. Now, thats what being a hero truly means never giving up on doing the right thing. Ben item by the corner without it crumbling, or in this case so you But he Thing's default psychological state is Thing was created by writer-editor Stan Lee and artist Jack Kirby, and he first appeared in The Fantastic Four #1 (cover-dated Nov. 1961). The Big Green is simply too powerful for the original Rock to conquer. For most of The strongest known spider is the jumping spider, which can lift 170 times its own weight. Groot is one of the strongest members of the Guardians of the Galaxy. it all goes wrong. Richard Rider became the last Nova after the Corps' destruction. As for the beloved Thing, hes been the Fantastic Fours powerhouse since 1961. However, in Fantastic Four #13, the Hulk and the Thing duke it out once again. gone wrong. had nothing to do with his muscles, it was simply his head injury. Reed, who always puts his experiments before Sue. In summary, the Hulk's defining psychological characteristic is Next:Hulk Would Be Totally Powerless Against Star Trek's Enterprise. This means that Hulk can take down Thor in his base form, while even with an Asgardian power-up, Thing couldn't withstand adirecthit from Mjolnir.
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