Thanks a lot Dawn, now I understand it. thanks!! My mars falls in his 12th and his moon falls in my 12th. Indeed, I felt the fear trampling along the edge with fear of insecurity. Chiron in Capricorn, Chiron in the 12th House - Astrology Owl New Classes and Courses Beginning In September! Useful Chiron in 12th House Crystals Jasper Malachite Professional Readings 2023 Yearly 30 Minute Astrology Report Recent Articles Ceres Aspects Lilith Aspects Juno in Houses Ceres in Houses Lilith in Houses Astrological Events New Moon in Taurus Increasing pleasures May 19 2023 Jupiter in Taurus Productive Growth )~~~a reader with Sun in Neptune and Saturn and Mars both in 12th house. (excuse my bad English) His Neptune conjuncts my SN orb 003 . Mars & NNode in Cancer/10th. intresting to know why its so bad. this is a very arguementative aspect.it indicates that the two of you have vastly different opinions on most everything . More, we have a 5 cluster Scorpio in 9 (Moon, Venus, Neptune, Jupiter and Mercury), a composite Sun in Sag in 10, with Pluto and Uranus conjunct in 7 and unaspectted Gemini NN in 4 we also have a lot of 6/12 house contacts in synastry and 21 conjunctions (far from being easy!) This person and I believe were soulmates, and I would go further to say were twin flames as we share some many parallels in our lives, similarities, and all the other strange features of a twin flame relationship as describe by many. Composite 12th house in Taurus= Issues with Stubborness. A Venus/Mars conjunction in Taurus can be a beautiful thing. We have a meaningful journey to take together, but we must ultimately be alone. Just not what I wanted to hear. Its weird weird weird . (I have my moon in Scorpio in the 12th house along with Saturn and Pluto). Sorry, Natalia, I cant really comment on this in the space available. Entering through my dreams, plenty of astral seduction going on out there in the ethers. Composites are entirely hypothetical, but can provide key understanding to some relationship dynamics. A very painful and challenging connection. It may have felt like chaos, but later on we know that there was method to the madness. I am in a very confused place myself right now, wanting to forgive, still loving her, but not understanding her and whether healing her childhood wounds will bring her attraction back, or if its got something more to do with me and something I need to let go of. Im afraid I cant get into it in this space (in the synastry course, we spend several lessons comparing the midpoint and Davison charts). I dont know if he felt the same deep feelings but I know he was puzzled by the sex. It might hold your answers, if you know how to read it properly. I met with a guy 2 months ago and when we saw each other, -there is no doubt that- we were both fascinated by each other. We are ignoring what the Source is asking us to do. The 12th house in astrology is the hardest part of your chart to get to know. our composite mars-venus conjunction opposes composite uranus, sun, mercury all conjunct from seventh house. And would that mean -lets say- if this persons partners personal planets conjuncts to his north node would he lose the partner or would he lose god because he put that person (her planets) between himself and god! Curious about the sexual response (if there will be anything), its friendly. I cant make a decision of whether to stay or leave without more clarity it feels like we arent done learning what we need to learn together, but staying together in this state where she doesnt desire me is agony. Ive known couples who are married for long periods of time to have 12th house composites. When transit Uranus is in the composite 12th house, you may make changes together but quietly behind the scenes, with no one watching. Juno is not only about romantic partnerships, but has to do with equality in general. There is still a sense that anything can happen though, very unpredictable energy. I dont want to lose this relationship too so I would like to help me to find out the karmic lesson. The lesson they teach is that we do not have to possess love in order to experience it. In my experience, if you have a good synastry but a difficult composite, the couple get along with one another but have problems establishing the relationship in the outside world. He is a pisces rising with neptune conjunct his midheaven. I know this man will be in my life as long as I can imagine. An ex-lover and I share composite Sun/Mercury in the 12th. We are mainly connected by a love of art, music and film. Now I just have to sit and wait around where it is got to leave us! Fated, for sure, but lessons to learn, or something that we must finish? When transit Venus is in the composite 12th house, you may enjoy being affectionate with one another when no one else around is around to pry and its just the two of you in a personal relationship. Venus In 12th House, Venus In Twelfth House Meaning, Venus In 12th Our physical connection was addicting. Thank you very much for the answer. In the Davison, we have Saturn, Moon, Pluto, and Venus Conjunct in the 12th house. I just am hesitating. Greetings. We feel it has a nebulous, yet mysteriously powerful influence on our lives when we have planets there, even though we cant quite fathom the type of influence it wieldsare we being seduced to a precipitous cliff by external forces, or are the demons within driving us to the edge? It is often said about this house that everyone else see's it before you do. The goal is to look at both your Chiron in the signs and Chiron in the houses together. Maybe someone else on the page will have an answer for you. I read our full synastry report, using dual cosmodynes, and the outcome was very positive and harmonic, scoring pretty much above the average! We also have 3 composite planets and an asteroid in house 8. Pisces is the mutable water sign overseeing the 12th house. I have composite sun and moon in house 12 with my brother. Most of my relationships are like that . We all find our gods where we can and must. venus+mars, etc. I also have problems with communication in general, I tend to . Ego issues in relationship. Thank You very much for Your answer and very best regards from Hungary again! The feelings I have for him, I feel, are something I just have to live with for the rest of my life. Please forgive me, there are much to read and ask, Your inputs will be very much appreciated. Chiron in the Composite Chart - | Seeking Truth, Guiding You People who fight for justice for others often have Juno prominent in the chart. The Composite 12th House in Astrology Chiron In 12th House Composite, Composite Chiron In Twelfth House Issues from the past can resurface in the partnership when Composite Chiron is in the 12th House. Now we hate each other and nothing made sense. We went through hell together, we loved each other, we saved each other, we saved others together, we could practically feel and read one another. *And in Synastry- My Chiron RIsing (asc in Taurus) sits in his 12th house) When transit Saturn is in the composite 12th house, you may feel that old issues or subconscious issues in the relationship become more of a problem, and need to be worked on, understood, and moved on from. Composite Sun in the 2nd House. Mine is conjunct with his moon. I have a 12th house Capricorn stellium and my husband and I also have a composite 12th house Capricorn stellium. 8th and 12th house seem to have haunted me for most of my life , Your email address will not be published. We have a Sun, Venus, Ceres, Node, Lilith and Fortune in 12th house. Chiron In The 10th House #Capricorn #Chiron # - YouTube Covered Here: The Composite 12th House in the Signs Composite Planets in the 12th House Transit Planets in the Composite 12th House Star*Mate Composite Report by Pamela Thompson Like individuals with 12th house planets, couples with a lot of twelfth house may feel that there is something fated about their lives together. Neptunes great teaching is that love is a powerful force in and of itself, and should not be used as a binder. His Saturn rules his moon and his ascendant, so it is a prominent planet, and as I said, he has Saturn conjunct his north node natally. Its difficult because boundaries dissolve and we find it hard to maintain our separateness, which is necessary in a healthy relationship. Whatever I told you would not have a context. Thank you for such an eloquent understanding, this has helped me. Several weeks ago, my wife revealed that she has been hiding a secret life of crushes and short-lived affairs from me over the past 4 years. Transit Mercury in the Composite 12th House. Everything you said is so on point. The 12th house conjunction in Cancer indicates that there is a nurturing issue between you that needs resolving. They help us understand that our capacity to love is its own reward. Chiron in Taurus 12 th House gives rise to feelings of dissatisfaction and indifference. Our synastry with my beloved couple is very strong with good connections between both 1th and 7th house rulers and many positive aspects like double whammy saturn-moon, and positive ascendant-moon, ascendant-venus, venus-moon, and so warm and intense pluto conj. That is really challenging chart I assume and I dont know whether I go for this guy or not. Comparing composites to the biwheel between two charts is impossible, like comparing apples and oranges. clearly the 1st has the most planets, but you said the sun was the essence of the chart,its in scorpio in the 12 house. Thank you in advance. Yes its probably the case, but as it is unconscious, how could I manage it , or prevent myself from feeling this ? And what does it mean our 12th. We also have Sun conjunct Saturn, Saturn trine Moon double whammy, Sun conjunct North Node double whammy, his venus conjunct my ascendant, My Mercury conjunct his ascendant, our moons conjunct in aries, Sun opposite Sun, Mercury opposite Mercury, and Venus opposite Venus, all within 3 degrees. Mars and Pluto certainly do about Scorpio. Thank You for Your answer and best regards from Hungary! Neptune tries to tell us that we cant own anything permanently, and if we try to possess and not understand the message of universal love (love is its own reward) it will pry our grasping fingers off of whatever we are trying to hold on to. In our synastry my North Node/South Node axis is conjunct his MC/IC axis and his Moon conjuncts my IC. . Ive seen couples with a heavy 12th house influence utterly befuddled and bedazzled by their lives (which dont go the way their friends lives go). Chiron in the houses will show where your sign is expressed, including the location, the part of the psyche, the timeline, etc. In my opinion the midpoint composite is not really true, because our midpoint chart doesnt show the very intense physical love what we live together. One or two aspects, especially in composite, do not carry the story. We become real magicians if we can tap into it. The examination of two natal charts shows how people interact with one another==how I affect you, and vice versa. Composite Chart: More on Houses | Cafe Astrology .com This is a complicated question and needs a subtle analysis in the chart, but on the whole, planets in the first house side of the angle center around the development of a healthy sense of Self, of ego, whereas planets on the 12th house side of the angle will be dealing with karma surrounding ego choices, and the planets will take on a more archetypal energy and effect. Im sure a lot of my readers have been there and sympathize with you completely. These natives like the challenge of conquering a possible partner. With a lot of respect for all of your work and wishing you all the best. And 1 more thing HIS VENUS opposes my vertex and my sun, venus and mercury on his ASC conjucts his Venus! along with Juno. Youre writing is inspired. It was emotional and intense, also warm and familiar at the same time. I have to come to grips with it (what you said) altough it is not an easy thing for me when it comes to love (being an Aries lol I want to love with a passion and not just except it as an idea). Chiron in 12th House wound is also related to spirituality and belief systems. But it was very devastating experience getting physical, it really failed the first time and we didnt try it again. Sorry Shannon, Dawn passed away a couple of years ago. (like your name too. hi dawn I was immediately flooded with emotion- I realized all at once how intensely close to him I was and needed to know if he was ok, etc. He just wanted to keep it physical until one of us gets married with someone else. I just met someone who has their moon in 12th house like myself and im wondering if i need to investigate this more closely. Pemo Theodore - Unravelling the Mysteries of Love through the Composite I read your article and its really touching! I never understood that statement could you put some light on it for me? Composite Sun in the Houses - South Florida Astrologer This last chance element, sadly, often leads us to relationships that are destined to exist only to fix this thingwhen the lesson is learned, both these people move on. !.the telepathy is overwhelming me. We met one day and it was ON, mutual, and understood without saying word. Please advise if we can make it to marriage or our relationship is doomed. And this is where we must reach out beyond our small lives to touch the greater life that is possible. They do not, however, lose interest once they have completed their aim. Can you say anything on the north node transiting the twelfth house on a composite? His Pluto on your Ascendant is an intense experience, but it sounds as though Neptune is the culprit as far as youre concerned. I have a heavily involved 12th house with someone, in synastry, sun and sun/moon in each other natal and composite.shows Sun/Mar/Saturn. From what you said, it seems like perhaps these give the relationship an element of commitment, partnership, and longevity that it wouldnt otherwise have albiet in an unusual, community-oriented way. the davison chart also has our moon, venus, saturn and uranus in the 1st. I am a pisces sun, mercury, mars. With 4, 8 and 12 emphasized, youll have to deal with one another in an emotionally honest way, no matter what karma you have to work out together. This area of the chart talks about going on a journey to uncover your own secrets, subconscious, and psyche. However, Sag and Cap are very, very different from one another and the things that make you feel secure, comforted and appreciated will be very different, unless other things in the chart back them up. Could I ask Your opinion? Astrology Symbols, Elements, Modalities, & House Types. !! But, separate he has a Saturn Gemini 12th and I have a Mercury Scorpio 12th. Pluto, Sun, Venus & Mercury in the 12th/Virgo. We were happy plutonicay together. Chiron In 12th House, Chiron In Twelfth House Meaning, Chiron In 12th now chiron. Escapist activities such as drugs, drinking, watching television, and compulsions are often found here in the12th house. I am a Sag with moon (12th house) and rising both in scorpio. When transit Jupiter is in the composite 12th house, you may have more opportunities to come together behind the scenes, behind closed doors, when no one is watching, and in a professional relationship, this can be how you make lots of progress together. 12th House seems to be the most frightening of all the houses to me, because the primal urge towards each other is such a deep and profoundly spiritual one, that you think, theres no way I could find this depth with another. Doing stuff without thinking clearly. And I read from Stephen Arroyo that it is so important to see the traditional rulers of the signs , for example in Aquarius is more important to see Saturn than Uranus. Lots of greetings from Serbia. Thank you for your insight. My progressed Uranus will be in my 7th house for the rest of my life. Another spin given to the 12th house . Those of us with composite 12th emphasized will be asked to step away from the mundane and step into the world of the extraordinary, where unlikely connections are day to day things. I really feel like there is a wolf howling in a forest at night and I hear his call , I know I am the female wolf and that the call is for me and I have to go to him now. My boyfriend and I have 4-5 planets in the 12th house in our composite progressed chart. thank you for post! Sometimes walking around with him is just like being in a movie, which is funny because we ARE in a movie together- one he is making with his best friend. thank you for your insight, thank you !!! The story of your inability to connect probably has more to do with your individual chart comparisons than the composite chart. We have a composite 12th house sun mars and venus in Cancer! Another concern is his Saturn and North node in my MC/IC and my Mercury/Mar (ruler of my 7th) in his Asc. Women may stay because they think, how the heck am i going to find a man Im this connected to? what do you think it means to have such much weight in the 1st and 12th houses? How ironic! Much of the time, putting faith in one another brings you joy. Arent these positive aspects good enough to sustain a relationship down-to-earth, telling me to forgive and try again or just simply blowing the matter worse and prolonging it?. This is my take on signs that have two rulersthere is a higher expression and a lower expression of the signs energy. We are just in the beginning so should I try this relationship or just let it go? My wife and I have composite moon in the 12 house (aquarius). And youre so right, because there is something about the compo 12 th house ! Some relationships have terrible natal comparisons and good composites. If a commitment to each other happens, the seventh and eighth houses come more clearly into focus. And we both natally have same aspects, my mars is in my 12th and his moon is in his 12th also. When transit Neptune is in the composite 12th house, you can explore your spiritual connection, and want to make sure that youre intuitively moving in the same direction. After I read and then I re-read this was the conclusion that I am more confused than before but more peaceful and more tolerant with my fate. Im not wanting to drag him to the floor yet. (You can have this without the 12th of course, but the 12th is inclined to it.) It confuses us, as is appropriate with a house that Neptune rules. My concern is a grand trine in the composite chart, Mercury/Jupiter/Venus all conjunct in the 1st (pisces) trine Moon/North node conjunct in the 5th (cancer) and Neptune the chart ruler in the 9th (Scopio). Ive recently broke up with what was felt the love of my life the most pure and locvng relationship ever. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. When it comes to relationship troubles, try taking an alternative approach. We have an interesting stellium in the 6th Uranus, Eros, Ceres, and Vertex all within a degree of each other. Either the energy of the planet is lost, confused, diffused and (at least in our early years) ineffective, or the planet can completely embody its archetype for all to see, often after overcoming great difficulties and reversals, sometimes in extreme circumstances. As someone with Chiron placed in 12th House, spirituality shapes your identity through isolation and imagination. My daughter and I have a 12th house Sun-Moon conjunction (in Cancer) in our composite. Thanks for the kind and helpful words, Dawn. Venus/Uranus is difficult in the composite, but it doesnt explain your obsession. oh gosh do not i know this! It was helpful all of your comments about the rest of composite houses and I say Thank you again for this (Note that Jupiter is the natural co-ruler of the 12th, so it will behave in a Pisces-like manner, here.) We have had such a difficult relationship. I use both in my practice. Its more complex than just the composite positions. so we find the True in each other. Thank You very much for Your answer and very best regards from Hungary again! Dear Dawn, I just see now, that accidentally I typed wrong Your name! This guy in my life puts Libra venus in my 12th (conjuncting my own Libra venus in 12th). Its hard for me to stop dreaming about this person. Sometimes we will be asked to make leaps of faith. so we find the True in each other. We have Sun,mercury,venus and jupiter in 12th house virgo. Hi annaMy feeling is that the word god is loaded, psychologically speaking. He knows me better than I know myself at times. Neptune is also in the 12th, but hanging back a bit and squaring Neptune- yikes. I apologize for the mistakes, Im French and sometimes it is difficult to express in English . We have a composite Pisces Ascendant (3) with a Pisces Saturn in 12 conjunct Ascendant. . Composite Venus in the 12th House. Thank you for your answer. I herd that the good connections between the 1st house rulers and 7 th rulers are so important an the good saturn aspects also. PS.. hes the very first guy I ever met who knew and talked about astrology! This year in April we were introduced to each other by our mates. The love you have for one another may be secret or private, and/or you are called upon to take a leap of faith in order to be with . Forget about where his planets fall in your houses and instead, put your natal chart around the chart of the composite, then do the same with his. I need help! The Uranus/Mercury conjunction in the composite can make the relationship more mental than physical. But I think you can count on that Jupiter for evoking good will between you should you decide to reconcile. but the composite chart provides the critical information of where a relationship is going and what are its advantages and disadvantages? But also to wound each other? I am not certain this person is a fit but yet there are alot of coincidences between us that keeps me boggled on the larger picture. The Composite Chart and the 12th House: The Ghost at the Door Like me, two of my sisters have/had Chiron placements in Gemini. In contrast, couples who come together to create something for the collective often have the appropriate planets in the composite 12th, there for all to see. I am 38 years old and have a Scorpio 12th house stellium (Sun, Moon, Mars, Mercury, and Neptune) so I am painfully, and blissfully, intimately aware of this energy. thanks you very much Dawn to shed some lights on this! And here is why: my sun, mercury and venus and chiron is in th e 12th natal house. Composite Chiron can be strongest when in the composite 1st house or conjunct (aligned with) a composite planet (especially a personal planet - Sun, Moon, Mercury, Venus, Mars) or composite angle (1st, 4th, 7th, and 10th house cusps). What would you say about a composite Scorpio Juno in the 12th house, conjunct to the asteroid Valentine and squaring the north and south node? It doesnt matter. So sad! Guess our trines from Sun/Moon to Jupiter arent enough to off set.
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