I didnt even know the layout of the Golden Temple. Lt. Gen. Brar: We met in 1984 during the time of Operation Blue Star and now we meet here again. What kind of Sikh is he? Brar: But there would have been accuracy in the news. One elderly man I spoke with, Amir Singh, had been a scrapdealer in the Nangloi area of Delhi. Brar: That was masterly. Mrs Gandhi, General A.S. Vaidya (the Army chief), General K. Sundarji (the Armys western commander), Lt Gen Ranjit Singh Dayal (Gen Sundarjis corps commander), and General Brar (I conducted the operation). The fervor of Sikh separatists was fueled and financed by wealthy Sikhs living abroad. We had our air tickets, we had our travellers cheques, we were all set to proceed to Manila and we get a phone call in Meerut about 7 in the evening to say that you are required for a conference in Chandimandir tomorrow morning. Longowal, a 54-year-old man with a long beard and a gentle face, bowed before the Granth Sahib, Sikhism's bible, and began speaking to the mostly Sikh congregation, urging reconciliation between Sikhs and Hindus. Some of the rooms have as many as a dozen occupants. The local Sikh temple gives each family about $70 a month. This official, who asked for anonymity, said what really worries him is the fact that more and more young Sikhs seem to be attracted to the terrorist cause, and to a state of fanaticism about their religion. We suffered a lot of casualties. I caught the morning flight from Delhi to Chandigarh. I think that everyone realised. These expatriates have maliciously internationalized the Punjab problem. Brar: Well, a lot of mutinies which took place, they took place in far-flung areas. ''Under the best of circumstances, my existence as a Sikh is in jeopardy. It is a tribute to Gandhi's own determination to restore democratic processes to the Punjab that he did not scuttle the elections. Did you underestimate them? You are hurt about the media being thrown out. SG: And it hurt the Indian Army because I do believe that if the media had not been thrown out, maybe both bad and good news would have come out, faster. Although the cause of the crash has not been determined, there was widespread speculation that it was caused by a bomb planted by Sikh terrorists. These indiscreet utterances by men who donned the uniform and served in the countrys prestigious and honourable armed forces remind one of Shahbeg Singh, an Indian Army officer who later served as a military advisor to Khalistani terrorist Jarnail Singh Bhindranwale. If I was being bold by turning up inside Sikhism's holiest shrine even as Sikhs were being butchered not far away in Delhi, then Bhagwant Singh Ahuja was even more courageous in escorting a Hindu to such a place. SG: So, do you now agree that throwing the media out and putting an information blackout in Punjab was wrong? Prime Minister Indira Gandhi responded by ordering the Indian Army to storm the temple on June 5-6, 1984, sparking a fierce battle in which as many as 2,000 people are thought to have died. The Harimandir Sahib shrine sparkled in the brilliant sunshine. One evening in Chandigarh, I saw what Badal was talking about. These included Col Osmani, as adviser, Maj Zia-Ur-Rehman and Mohammad Mustaq. Brar: My message to fellow Sikhs is, too much blood has flown. SG: Was there a point in your life where you thought that your life is back to normal, as it is in Punjab? SG: Im not hurt. He spoke before a small gathering of friends and relatives in a dhaaba, a roadside restaurant. Shd Beg fled, first to (old) Astrakhan, then to Shirvan. General Dayal's main adversary was another highly decorated Sikh war hero, Maj. Gen. Shabeg Singh. Did the Olympics really reserve Gold Medals for protesting Indian wrestlers? We were never political people. And we couldnt delay it. Miss Narain, who helped assist Sikhs who had been attacked during the riots, expressed amazement at the attitudes of her fellow Hindus. Brar: He made it almost impossible for us to enter the Akal Takht. Support Us General Shabeg Singh Di Daughter Bahadari Nal Ladi Army Nal | Operation Blue Star | Sikh Sangat TV - YouTube AboutPressCopyrightContact usCreatorsAdvertiseDevelopersTermsPrivacyPolicy &. SG: Because I remember facing a great deal of opprobrium at that point from the establishment for revealing the facts. Brar (Retd) led Operation Blue Star inside the Golden Temple from 3 to 7 June. You cant bring tanks in suitcases. ''The continued repression in the Punjab has caused the majority of Sikhs to lose confidence in the Government,'' said Lieut. They did not chant Sanskrit hymns, as Hindus did, but sang devotional songs that Nanak had composed in his native language, Punjabi. '', He pointed to the widows in his family. Who were they going to take revenge on? You will go to hell. We were leaving for Delhi the next day and catching the evening flight to Manila. Now we need to heal our wounds. Hope India would come to realize what folly it has done to Sikhs and the Akal Takhat. Singh blamed the riots on local Congress Party workers, people with whom the Nangloi Sikhs had enjoyed cordial relations. [13][9] Two charge sheets in an anti-corruption court were brought against him in Lucknow by India's Central Bureau of Investigation. However, even when there was no confirmation on the fate of Bipin Rawat, some folks in uniform could not hide their hatred for the nations first CDS. It is noteworthy to mention that retired Col Baljit Bakshi had made no bones about his support to the farmers and had vociferously supported the demonstrations that were hijacked by Khalistani elements as banned organisations such as Sikhs For Justice, along with other groups sympathetic to the Khalistani sentiments such as Khalsa Aid, partook in the protests, mobilising resources and support with the aim to sow discord and engender resentment against the Centre among the people. Brar: I dont know what the idea really was because this was something that my superiors thought of. She and some other bereaved women in the Tilak Vihar colony have organized themselves into a cooperative to sew clothes. The Sikhs got their Punjabi-speaking state, but its land area was sharply reduced. I arrived in Chandimandir and told my wife that Ill be back in the evening and well catch the flight (to Manila). SG: Because what happens in those situations is, if there is no credible source of information, people believe all rumours, and the worst rumours become the truest. One companion, and friend, of Santji, was Major General Shabeg Singh (Ex Indian Army). I think among Hindus the main problem these days is that they cannot put themselves into Sikhs' shoes. Gen Raina had the Farm bear the cost of it. Ill just stay out there and fight it out till the end. His house was destroyed. The annual influx of more than 200,000 low-caste Hindu farm workers created social tensions. During Amit Shahs rally, a group drinks everything a cold drink vendor had to sell, BJP leader Pratap Simha makes good the loss after Mann ki Baat has catalyzed community led action on sanitation, health: Bill Gates congratulates Narendra Modi on 100th episode of Mann ki Baat. [citation needed], In July 1944, Raina's battalion returned to India and was attached to the 26th Indian Infantry Brigade, which that December was sent to Burma attached to the 36th Indian Infantry Division[6] He was mentioned in dispatches for his service in the Burma Campaign. ''Now I see the deep hurt among my Sikh students. If I may say so, it was we who first revealed the fact that you used tanks and artillery. Shortly after the attack on him, Brar spoke with me in detail on NDTV 247s Walk the Talk about leading Operation Blue Star and the lessons learnt from it. He was a veteran of the 1962 war and 1971 wars. About DR. SHABEG SINGH GONDARA M.D. Brar: Thats right. . Born on 23 January 1925 in a village near Amritsar, Subeg Singh, popularly known as Shabeg Singh, had been recruited to British Army in 1942 from Lahore college, where he was studying. Youre wearing the olive green uniform. As citizens of India, we must put your religion, caste, creed, everything aside and remember were Indian first. Ahuja kept very close to me. I have been sanctioned annual leave for my honeymoon., And so he looked at General Dayal and they whispered to each other and then he said, Bulbul, your leave is off. ''A wave of militant Hindu fanaticism is sweeping the Punjab today,'' says Rahul Singh, editor of the Chandigarh edition of the Indian Express, India's largest daily newspaper. Speak to the Shiromani Akali Dal and the SGPC and try and make them understand that its no use. 4. Theres an aircraft waiting outside to take you to Amritsar. SG: Describe the scene that night. SG: When you were told to put all the media in buses and then drive them out of Amritsar, did somebody question that? If he had such massive popularity among the Sikhs, then the people of Punjab would not have put that chapter behind them the way they have done. ''We are not looking for just a piece of land,'' the businessman said, ''we are looking for territory where Sikhs can protect their women and children, where a Sikh can become the master of his own destiny - where my religious shrines are not allowed to be run over by army tanks. After partition, when reorganization of the regiments took place, he joined theParachute Brigadeas a Paratrooper. Major General Shabeg Singh raised and trained the Mukti Bahini but, rather than being sent even a little thank-you note, was victimised "only because he was a Sikh". So it was very disturbing. Mr Bakshi removed the tweet and issued an apology, stating that his tweet was not taken kindly by many and that he had no intention of wishing anything bad to anyone. There is no point in the younger generation, who have not seen that period, now being reminded of it. He was the eldest son of Sardar Bhagwan Singh and Pritam Kaur, and had three brothers and a sister. The first calls for a sovereign Sikh nation were issued in the mid-1940s, in the ferment that accompanied Indian independence. I am surprised he is still alive and spewing filth from his SWINE LIKE mouth. Three of his four sons, and three of his nephews, were killed in the riots. You go another time. ''People seem secretly happy that a lesson has been taught to the Sikhs,'' she said. A senior army official, who monitors the intelligence and security apparatus in the Punjab, said that many Sikhs and their leaders simply had abandoned reason. This is a digitized version of an article from The Timess print archive, before the start of online publication in 1996. SG: You were commanding the 1st Marathas, which entered Dhaka ahead of others. Although you did not manage to quite throw me out. You go another time. What the Sikh separatist is saying is that the honor can only be brought back to Sikhs through a separate, independent state.''. After his dismissal, Singh joined the Sikh leader of Damdami Taksal, Jarnail Singh Bhindranwale,[4] where he served as Bhindranwale's military adviser. Only time will tell where India is heading. Government officials tend to dismiss such talk as hyperbole. Brar: I dont think you were cursed at all. Does he even the know the definition of a Sikh? Under his command were placed all the Bangladesh officers that had deserted from the Pakistan Army. And there were dangers that we (Punjab) may go the Bangladesh way. [7][8], Singh was a notable figure with the press for his service in the Indo-Pakistani War of 1971. What would stop Indian Hindu to starts attacking its own Hindu temples, Indians including killing innocent Hindus. Abutting the Parikrama were mounds of rubble. ''How can our bitterness be wiped away?'' [10] Raina initially joined 10/19 Hyderabad, then at Agra, but was posted to 2/19 Hyderabad in December 1942. I give you 36 hours to settle down there and make your plans and I shall come there for my first briefing. N OT SO LONG AGO, the Sikhs were pampered by Hindus, whom they had traditionally served as soldiers and military experts. He was the GOC of the UP Area HQs, during whose tenure Gen Raina used Kumaon Farms for his daughter's wedding. Brar: My message is, what are you going to gain by killing a 78-year-old man? If you have to do it, do it one-to-one. But I agree with you that the media must remain there. He recruited men who shared his firebrand fundamentalism, launched a terrorist campaign to murder Punjab's Hindus and moderate Sikhs, and drew international attention to himself and his cause. Within a few days the Regiment moved to Burma and joined the war against the Japanese. Men began to shout in anger. So I said, Im very surprised, sir, because I know he is dead. [4], Singh was born in 1925 in Khiala village (earlier known as Khiala Nand Singhwala), about nine miles (14km) from the Amritsar-Chogawan road. One of the widows, a young woman named Dhanwat Kaur, said her three little children had seen their father, a carpenter, burned alive by a Hindu mob. Here is the truth, Instagram uses unrelated fact-check from Boom Live to claim Azad Maidan riots where a Muslim youth kicked Amar Jawan Jyoti is fake news, Karnataka: Murder-accused Congress candidate, who is barred from his constituency by SC, gets praised by The Hindu for his virtual campaigning, The Guardian publishes anti-Semitic, Nazi propaganda-inspired cartoon, retracts after outrage. We washed our feet in a small basin and then walked down a flight of marble steps into the courtyard of the Golden Temple. Under the plan, 13 of India's 15 major indigenous languages thus found a formal home within the boundaries of a new state, but the Punjabi language remained unrepresented. So why should I speak out and put myself on someone's hit list?''. During the course of his service in the Indian army, Shaheg Singh fought in every war that India participated in - WWII, 1947 Kashmir invasion, 1962 Indo-China War, 1965 Indo-Pak War, and 1971 Indo-Pak War.Distinguished Army CareerIn 1942, an officers selection team visiting Lahore colleges recruited Singh to the Indian Army officers cadre. The practitioner's primary taxonomy code is 2084P0800X with license number A137780 (CA). Was it just a soldierly response theek hai, order hai, karna hai? '', That was also a sentiment I encountered among Sikhs in the Punjab. Try and realise that there has to be unity between the Sikhs and the Hindus and everyone else. Shabeg Singh . He was posted to the 1st Battalion of the Parachute Regiment, where he remained until 1959. Ahuja and I walked on the marble-floored perimeter, known as the Parikrama. In the wake of the assassination, thousands of innocent Sikhs were killed by rampaging mobs in Delhi and other cities in northern India. You and I only meet in odd circumstances. Please contribute whatever you can afford. [6][7] He received his early education in Ludhiana, where his father had been posted as Head Postmaster. I followed Ahuja in cir-cumambulating the inner shrine, then I knelt in front of the Granth Sahib, and placed my forehead against the floor. A Sikhs head and life belongs to the Guru and not to the state and that too a brutal one. They had been hacked to death, he said. The new Punjab state thrived economically, largely because of ''green revolution'' advances that dramatically improved agricultural yields, allowing it to become India's largest food-producing region. SG: Lets go back to 1984, Operation Blue Star. SG: And all of that said with a smile on your face. You see, terrorists are made, not born. His body was later found and identified when the operation was over. Occasionally the digitization process introduces transcription errors or other problems; we are continuing to work to improve these archived versions. On the morning of Oct. 31, Mrs. Gandhi was assassinated by two Sikh bodyguards in her garden in New Delhi. In 1945 when the war ended, Singh was in Malaya with his unit. [14] Raina was awarded the Padma Bhushan for his contributions in the War. '', This ''we versus them'' feeling is startlingly evident in many parts of India these days. Anyone can read what you share. You did enter the bastion of the Sikhs, your fellow Sikhs. He got the Maha Vir Chakra. Bhindranwales forces, not just amateurs, led by a fellow. The Sikhs were seen as the militant arm of Hinduism. He was the oldest son of Sardar Bhagwan Singh and Pritam Kaur, and had three brothers and a sister. I am told, You know the situation in Amritsar is very bad, and I said yes. ''Why should I speak out?'' So in the middle of all those briefings I said, I am proceeding abroad tonight. [16], Raina died on 19 May 1980 in Ottawa, while serving as India's High Commissioner to Canada. Brar: I was a Major General. And we were going to Manila for a honeymoon. According to Sukhinder and Kunal Singh, a youthful Sikh couple who run a business in the Punjab, even longtime friends avoid discussing Punjab politics. The Akalis argued that the central Government in Delhi should restrict its functions in the Punjab to defense, foreign affairs, communications and currency. 3600 NW Samaritan Dr. Corvallis, OR 97330. Now this caused a little more commotion, that he is alive and that yet his spirit has come. [18], On 25 February 1949, Raina married Marie Antoinette Florence Kurtz, who was French. And I think that after that we have learnt a lesson. The indiscreet utterances by men who donned the uniform and served in the country's prestigious and honourable armed forces remind one of Shahbeg Singh, an Indian Army officer who later served as a military advisor to Khalistani terrorist Jarnail Singh Bhindranwale. Was that the idea, that somehow it will remain hidden from the rest of the country that you used tanks and artillery? The assassination was the latest episode in a cycle of worsening violence centered around demands by radical Sikhs that they be permitted to establish their own theocratic nation, called Khalistan. When partition came in 1947, and Pakistan was carved out of India, the Sikhs of the Punjab were the biggest losers. Dont revive those wounds. General Shabeg Singh belonged to Khiala village of the Bhangus, about nine miles from Amritsar-Chogawan Road. Shabeg Singh Lehl Consultant - Digital Transformation, New Age Software App Development & Product/Platform Engineering for Global ISVs & Enterprises across Diverse Domains Chandigarh, India 820. Sikhs, however, reject such arguments as self-serving. In name of saving democracy, they get money from various sources. Many buildings were pockmarked by bullet holes. So, he felt that we are not going to go in. According to counter-intelligence reports of the R&AW, the three prominent . SG: And you tried very hard to fade away quietly. The elections were intended to restore political normalcy in a state where, for the last four years, confrontations between Government security forces and militant Sikh separatists have fostered an atmosphere of growing tension, uncertainty and violence. In Delhi alone, according to Sikh leaders, up to 10,000 Sikhs were killed. SHABEG SANDHU OBITUARY Dr. Shabeg Singh SandhuDecember 4, 1937 - August 2,2014DurhamDr. Brar: Of course. Jyoti Narain, who followed his father into the Army and joined his old regiment, was killed in a motorcycle accident in March 1974. Brar: Why should you hide anything? The sunburst of shells marred several structures. "Shaheedi Samagam Organised at Sri Akal Takhat Sahib", "6: Role of the Media and Opposition Parties", "Wounds heal but another time bomb ticks away", https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Shabeg_Singh&oldid=1147867602, GOC, Madhya Pradesh, Bihar and parts of Odisha; Defence of the, This page was last edited on 2 April 2023, at 18:04. After his dismissal from the armed forces, he joined the Khalistan movement and served as a military adviser and trainer for the group's terrorists. In addition, the Punjab began exporting labor; educated Sikhs as well as semiliterate craftsmen went to the West and to the oil-rich states of the Persian Gulf to work - and soon were repatriating more than $2 billion annually to their relatives. Singh was killed during the initial stages of the operation, during the firing between Akal Takht and Darshini Deorhi. ''They have imaginary fears, and their total distrust of the Indian Government is often based on wild rumors. He was dismissed from the army on the charges of corruption one day before his retirement, for which he sought redress in civil court, he had won all his court cases (Among the frivolous politically motivated charges were a corruption case was that he had bought a 'Jhonga' on proxy). For two years, the local government has been suspended and the Punjab has been under direct rule from New Delhi. Shahbeg Singh is widely credited for fortifying the defences of the Temple Complex that rendered the possibility of a commando operation on foot impossible. Shuhbeg Singh was described as the one who was dismissed from the Army on corruption charges. I knew that once they have given a threat of this nature from a holy place, they are going to carry it out some day or the other. The antagonisms between the Sikhs and Hindus began to emerge under the British, who inducted Sikhs into the army in large numbers and used Sikh troops to keep rebellious Hindu chieftains under control. [8] While a college student in Lahore, at the University of the Punjab, Raina joined the 4th Punjab University Training Corps in October 1938. Born out of Hinduism in the 15th century, Sikhism was founded by Guru Nanak (1469-1539), who claimed to have experienced mystical revelations. Once a soldier, always a soldier. Brar: Thats right, and he was with the Mukti Bahini. One of these men was a London-based physician named Jagjit Singh Chohan, a former secretary-general of the Akali Dal and a former finance minister of the Punjab, who proclaimed himself ''president'' of Khalistan and even produced Khalistan passports, postage stamps and currency. Copyright 2022 Printline Media Pvt. Brar: Yes. SG: At which point did you decide to bring the heavy stuff, the tanks and the guns? Magnificent interview! He had a reputation of being fearless officer and one who did not tolerate any nonsense. Brar: Yes. For that reason, his death was not only a blow to peace in the Punjab, but also a setback to a deeper healing of communal differences throughout the country. They don't say much in the classroom. The water was cool, even sweet. We are going to kill him. Another retired army man Retired Col Baljit Bakshi tweeted, Karma has its own way of dealing with people. His tweet naturally sparked outrage on social media, with netizens attacking him for wishing ill on Gen Bipin Rawat. As a Sikh going into a shrine, its not an easy thing to do. He said, Bibi, as he referred to Mrs Gandhi, will send Russian commandos, because Sikhs troops will not fight us, and topiwallahs (Hindus) will not be able to fight us.. Youre wearing the olive green uniform. A rumour is a terrible thing and if the media had been there, they would have quickly projected exactly what was happening. I looked around. If you hide anything, it seems you are covering up a lapse. He was awarded the Maha Vir Chakra for his handling of the Battle of Chushul. He enrolled in Khalsa College in Amritsar, and later in Government College in Lahore. In contrast to the poverty visible elsewhere in India, it was rare to see a hungry Punjabi, and rarer still to see a destitute one. So I got to Amritsar and got my staff and we got down to making plans. This was the first world tour. But it was unfair not to inform that he was acquitted by a special court on February 13, 1984 of the charges against him in both cases filed by the CBI. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wcPTG9PqZ0&feature=youtu.be. Being a Sikh himself, he dared to enter the bastion of Sikhs.. As some in uniform show their hatred for the nation's CDS, read who was Click to share on Facebook (Opens in new window), Click to share on Twitter (Opens in new window), Click to share on Koo (Opens in new window), Click to share on Reddit (Opens in new window), Click to share on Telegram (Opens in new window), Click to share on WhatsApp (Opens in new window). Shabeg Singh had been cashiered from the Indian Army on corruption charges, and was recruited by . Because ultimately, terrorism in Punjab has been fought by Punjabi Sikhs. Im a Sikh. Did that honest and frank attitude got the gallant general in trouble with top brass in Indian Army?Singh was an instructor in the Military Academy at Dehra Dun, and held a number of staff appointments in various ranks. He is Failed general getting glory becuase of useless politicans.. U will go to hell n from there also will b thrown out aftrr burning in deep oils u people are black dots in name of sikhskilled thousands of innocents???? According to Parkash Singh Badal, the former chief minister of the Punjab and leader of the Akali Dal, Sikhs see themselves as being in a continuing conflict with the Indian state - in the name of ''terrorism'' all Sikhs are being persecuted. LATE IN THE AFTERNOON ON TUESDAY, AUG. 20, HAR-chand Singh Longowal walked into a Sikh temple near Sangrur, his home village in the heart of the Punjab, to offer prayers for peace. He was the Brigade Commander at Chushul in Ladakh during November 1962. The guilty must be punished, but we don't think it will happen.''. SG: Chandimandir, near Chandigarh, used to be the II Corps headquarters those days. ''It is too deep. [12], On 5 January 1965, Lieutenant-Colonel Raina was appointed Brigadier General Staff (BGS) of the XXXIII Corps in West Bengal.[13][2]. The family traced its lineage to the great Sikh warrior, Bhai Mehtab Singh who along with Bhai Sukha Singh slew Massa Rangar in 1740 avenging his . Now, at this point of time, with Mrs Gandhi assassinated, General Vaidya assassinated, and General Sundarji and General Dayal having died natural deaths, Im the only one left. SG: And a message to the people who attacked you in London? He is appreciated for leading.a army to attack its.own citizens and most sacred place of worship. And it is not just Hindus in the Punjab who harbor ill will against Sikhs. Here is your task, how best do you carry it out? SG: A fellow officer from your 71 war vintage. SG: You mean the government in Delhi thought he had escaped? And then you run away after that. But despite such problems, most observers agree that the Akali Dal -and not Gandhi's Congress Party - enjoys the strongest grass-roots support among Sikhs, and that it alone has the credibility necessary to head off a new surge in separatist violence. Fax: 541-768-5100. Brar: Never. Brar: I would still do it but I would refine it. But this man then spun around and pumped several shots into Longowal. [18] He organised the Sikh forces present at the Harmandir Sahib in Amritsar in June 1984. Ltd. All rights reserved. On 7 October 1971, Raina was appointed General Officer Commanding of II Corps in the Khulna sector, with the acting rank of Lieutenant General. Singh was killed during the initial stages of the operation, during the firing between Akal Takht and Darshini Deorhi. A hand touched my head. In New Delhi, I spoke with Nandita Narain, a young professor of mathematics at a local college. After dithering for months about whether she should send her troops to flush Bhindranwale out of his sanctuary, Mrs. Gandhi finally authorized the military operation in June 1984. [12][17] Following his funeral and cremation with full military honours in Delhi on 25 May,[17] his son-in-law, together with his nephew, Squadron Leader K. K. Zalpuri, immersed his ashes in the Ganges at Haridwar on 27 May. If he succeeds, he may have the opportunity to put the Punjab on the road of lasting peace -and to bring a healing hand to the Sikh and Hindu communities. India needs fair, non-hyphenated and questioning journalism, packed with on-ground reporting. Shabeg Singh Briar currently works at the Olds College Center for Innovation, Alberta, Canada. [11], He was the Brigade Commander at Chushul in Ladakh during November 1962. Many of these migrant workers stayed on and enrolled as voters - thus fattening the percentage of Hindus in the state. Here is the backstory, Karnataka: Several BJP workers injured after assault by Congress workers led by Siddaramaiahs nephews, India Today claims clash erupted over road accident, Warner Bros. and its HBO content to be exclusively available on JioCinema in India, Viacom18 signs multi-year agreement with the Hollywood giant, As Executive Editors of NYT, WaPo, LA Times, and Reuters pontificate on democracy, watch how dissenters were pinned down and ousted from a program. And there was a spirited response from his followers. General Tapishwar Narain Raina MVC, SM (24 January 1921 19 May 1980), best known as T.N. SG: So, if you were to go back and conduct that operation again, first of all, would you still do it or would you think again?
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