#1. Variety of classic tones via three gain stages. lwk5150; Jul 8, 2017; Member Classifieds; Replies 2 Views 481. Good luck. Friedman Pink Taco V2 Guitar Amp Head. rocknrollrelic Frets: 39. The toggle switches are different, though, with both the head and combo flashing an S-Switch (Gain Structure) and B-Switch (Bright/Tight). Friedman's Pink Taco V2 amp head will set you back $1,499, while the combo version carries a price tag of $1,799. It may not display this or other websites correctly. The Dirty Shirley Mini rocks! I am really wanting a PT and a Dirty Shirley.I wanna runem togther at the same time! Budget-Friendly, Baltic Birch Construction. Friedman Dirty Shirley 1X12 Cab. Under the hoodor, at least, inside the well-built Baltic birch cabinetis an effects send/return and additional 8-ohm and 16-ohm speaker outs. I bought a DS40 in the end, but no kidding, when I played the PT as my first Friedman experience, I had never heard a Marshall circuit I was playing sound so good -- it had that magic "it" element going, a certain mojo. Cons: Brandon Ellis laid down the gauntlet to Jacksons Master Builders with this 27-fret Gold Crackle Kelly is this one of the most challenging custom builds ever made? I know the Runt has the XLR stuff, but I'm curious on your take on which one is better for you. #55. The Little Sister and Pink Taco Mk II are both available in head and combo models. Back at the homestead after the gig, I pulled three guitars: a modern Zuzu with coil-tapping, an early-70s Fender Strat with the requisite single-coils, and an early-90s Les Paul Classic. In the middle, the amp is at its cleanest, with lots of headroom and a tone thats rich but doesnt get nasty and spanking until the gain control climbs to about 7, with the master at noon. You are using an out of date browser. Friedman's Pink Taco V2 amp head will set you back $1,499, while the combo version carries a price tag of $1,799. Tech experts from Seymour Duncan are regularly on this forum, and are clearly labeled as employees of Seymour Duncan. With a pair of EL84 power tubes and three 12AX7s pushing the preamp section, the Minis goal is clearly British-flavored classic rock tones. Sorry Marshall, I'll Take A Dirty Shirley - Friedman Amp Revisited It may not display this or other websites correctly. All that said. Nice amp, but I was disappointed, nothing special IMO. Some of the add-ons on this site are powered by. The Pink Taco is the sibling to Friedman's first production amp the BE-100. r/GuitarAmps on Reddit: Friedman vs Mesa Boogie amps? But sometimes its not possible, and in this case, I'm trying to choose the best option. I feel the amp shines on lower gain side but can do higher gain on its own as well. Should Behringer release the Behremin, its $99 Theremin interpretation, or should it keep its hands off? Future Publishing Limited Quay House, The Ambury, Friedman BE-Mini Guitar Amp Head. (I did, and the answer is very!). You just need to lower the bass as the gain goes up. I had a DSM. All times are GMT-7. I prefer setting the gain for a good Angus crunch then boosting with an OD. Has about the same gain as the BE100 BE channel.. 1299.00 also Has a great cab sim out and the 20 has a built in load, so you can use it with no cab if needed. JavaScript is disabled. Friedman Amplification Dirty Shirley Minifriedmanamplification.com. A little brighter and edgier and don't have quite the warmth and swirl of the smallbox or BE but its . JavaScript is disabled. For years I've used mic's placed in front of the speaker (which is still a good format) and I was looking to improve recording tones in my home studio, it's not as plush and refined as a pro studio but I can get really great results, which I also do clients material that send me wav.files then load them to my DAW. In all its annoying bright honking spongy goodness. 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I haven't played a Maz in a dozen years though, at only loud house volumes, and I don't have a very good memory, sorry. I've seen a few pictures out on the interwebs of someone reverse engineering the Dirty . The Mini is comparatively bantamweightjust 30 pounds and pumping 20 watts of output through a 10", 25-watt Celestion Greenback. Pink Taco, JJ Jr, or Runt 20? | My Les Paul Forum It's available as an all-tube head or 1x12 combo and features a pair of x EL84 power tubes, a trio of 12AX7 preamp tubes, master volume and gain controls plus a three-band EQ. I would say the Shirley benefits from a lower wattage speaker, probably like 15 to 30 watts as it seems to give up the good dirt as lower volume than the Pink Taco. This aims to redefine what an EL84-powered amp can deliver. Its mounted upside down, so youve got to tilt the amp on its face to see it and plug in, which would be challenging on a dark stage. October 20, 2022. https://reverb.com/item/280667-friedman 12-cabinet. I'm from the USA and should go to Brazil ! The Verdict Friedman Dirty shirley mini ,Pink taco or wait for the Runt? To start viewing messages, Kind of like the Marshall SV-20 and SC-20, maybe? Being one that likes both hard rock and classic rock, those voicings are a good match for me. Runt is pcb constructed and you get a discount for it. ($400). Friedman Mini Dirty Shirley head | Page 2 | My Les Paul Forum For what you stated the "Mini DS" would cover best (little closer to Plexi) also the Runt (closer to JCM800) can do the same but with a bit more gain. Friedman Pink Taco, Mini Dirty Shirley Or Runt 20 - Marshall Amp Forum With each arriving in both amp head and combo formats, the brands newest offerings update its existing Mini Dirty Shirley and Pink Taco units, promising to provide a swathe of versatile tonal options. Years in the making, perfect the sound and tonal experience in a smaller format. You must log in or register to reply here. I keep see people describing the DSM as AC/DC, which to me is a very open chord classic rock kinda sound, with less gain. Didn't bond with it. This is also an amp that should clean up well with your guitar's volume control. JavaScript is disabled. Friedman Dirty Shirley Mini VS Pink Taco - Forums The DS has more headroom, but the PT is more different to the Maz, I would have guessed the opposite as the Maz seems to cut like a knife and the DS sounded a little "less middy". select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below. He has a Masters in the guitar, a degree in history, and has spent the last 16 years playing everything from blues and jazz to indie and pop. Matt is a Staff Writer, writing for Guitar World, Guitarist and Total Guitar. JCM 2000 DSL 50 - Perfect amp for me - Late to the party! Friedman NoHo 24 Electric Guitar - Blue Jean . The MkII is the latest version of that single-channel rock machine with a single gain and added switches to flexibility. You're looking at $999 for a Mesa mini vs $2700 for a Dirty Shirley. Also, as expected, things were quieter when my pedalboard was plugged into the effects loop rather than straight into the front end. Whole Lotta Shirley Black. Yeah I'd like to see a 2 channel DSM. So the smaller version might have that, too. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Dial in your sound with the 3-band EQ. Amped-up iterations of the Mini Dirty Shirley and BE-100-inspired Pink Taco feature two EL84 power tubes, a trio of 12AX7 preamp tubes and a host of new voices. Generally it is quite hard, if not near impossible to get schematics on current run amps. How does Friedman BE 100's little brother PINK TACO compares to Dirty Shirley's little sister MINI DIRTY SHIRLEY?Thanks to MusiX for the loan of these fantas. How cool is it to be able to add a 12" extension cab to the Mini? An S-Switch alters the gain structure between clean, mid-gain and high-gain settings with a Saturation Switch and Fat Switch further bolstering the versatility. You must log in or register to reply here. England and Wales company registration number 2008885. Friedman Pink Taco.. Holy cow batman!!!!! - Amps Discussions on The PT seems to have a bit less bottom end and a bit more upper mid sizzle to it. I own a BE, Dirty Shirley 40, Dirty Shirley Mini and incoming Smallbox. Friedman Dirty Shirley 40 - 40-watt Tube Head 1-channel, 40-watt Guitar Tube Amplifier Head with Custom Transformers, 3-band EQ, and Effects Loop . One can never have too many amps!! I'm from Brazil and will come to the USA soon, and hope to find all them on a local store to try side by side. Mar 6, 2015. A little brighter and edgier and don't have quite the warmth and swirl of the smallbox or BE but its in the ballpark. I know the Pink Taco well and have spent probably an hour with the mini Shirley. Friedman schematics 1) The price difference is because the Runts are PCB while the DSM and PT are hand wired. It's an ultra-compact 9 1/2" x 15 1/2" x 16 1/2". We already know Dave Friedman's modded take on Marshall tones results in some incredible rock toneage so bringing it to more people with the latest Pink Taco Mk II and Little Sister 20-watt tube amps is great news. link above. I clarified that. All are welcome, from seasoned pros to absolute beginners. Pink Taco V2. Said to supply the BE-100s classic Friedman sound in a small, compact and lightweight package, the Pink Taco V2 head is according to the company a 20-watt EL84 single-channel fire breather, with a particular sonic penchant for blues, classic rock and metal. Friedman unleashes two 20-watt tube amps and they sound spectacular Sturdy. So what's the difference between these amps. Friedman Jerry Cantrell JJ Junior Signature 20W 112 Tube Guitar Combo Amp. Friedman | Sweetwater I would guess the PT to be more different. the PT can do much of the same as the two but it can also do "Hair Metal" (General Metal) Closer to a Modified JCM800 w/more gain. The PT is tight. Its also worth noting the two EL84 power tubes and three 12AX7 preamp tubes, as well as the ultra-transparent series FX loop. 3-position gain structure switch for toggling between modern and vintage tones. Its an ultra-compact 9 1/2 x 15 1/2 x 16 1/2. Dave's first production amplifier, the BE-100, is criticality acclaimed and one on the most in demand British high gain meets vintage amps on the market today. Joining the above is the Little Sister, which was designed for a vintage classic rock tone inspired by British tube amps from the 60s and 70s. My Les Paul is the leading online community and marketplace for Les Paul guitar fans. Little Sister. Amp guru Dave Friedmans latest, the Dirty Shirley Mini, is a new addition to that genus. Damn, the agony of choice continues. I like the Dirty Shirley mini more than the full size. In other words, check my work please!! We may earn a commission on any affiliated purchases. Help needed verifying plate dissipation/Cathode resistor value for 6V6. You may have to register When hes not combining his passion for writing and music during his day job, Matt records for a number of UK-based bands and songwriters as a session musician. If your looking to get the same tones in a smaller package I'd say either the PT20 or Runt 20. It's so hard to tell on youtube though. All sounded fully and correctly voiced via the Dirty Shirley Minis Celestion, although the power, tonal depth, and sustain the amp exhibited with humbuckers was truly a joy. If you're a tech with access, you often sign agreements you'll only use them for repair work etc. Get the latest and greatest Guitar news with one of our guitar magazine subscriptions. Angus tone is closer to the DS, Slash (JCM800/Jubilee) DS to Runt, but now his song "You should be mine" from the Terminator movie would be closer to the Pink Taco. If you haven't checked them out, you should. It is powerful and robust like a Dr. Z Maz.18 would be. Videos coming this month while thinks are shipping to stores.. You must log in or register to reply here. I've played a Runt 50 and they are great. Hell, even the Runt 50 is $1800 and you can easily get a used Dual Rec for that much and then some. The Dirty Shirley Mini and the PT-20 demos seemed more tame, while the JJ Jr. sounded like thrash metal. I'm the Guitars Editor for MusicRadar, handling news, reviews, features, tuition, advice for the strings side of the site and everything in between. 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I know a regular Dirty Shirley has amazing cleans with just the volume knob. Ive played all three and the DSM smokes them all! The Runt, from what I've heard of pricing, will still be $400-500 more than the minis. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. The panel for the returns and speaker outs is a bit awkward. The ultimate beginner's guide. Maybe shoot him a PM. Heres how it works. Some Guitar Centers have these in stock for you to try if you can get to one. If you want some cleans and plenty of gain that covers blues to even metal with the bass off and gain dimed, the DS Mini would be the obvious choice, cause it can be dialed in for most all tones. Heres how it works. It may not display this or other websites correctly. The Smallbox is my favorite amp of all time. What are you waiting for. $. No reverb. The Pink Taco V2 amp head is the latest iteration of the Pink Taco, which in turn was inspired by Friedmans first production amplifier, the critically acclaimed BE-100. the PT can do much of the same as the two but it can also do "Hair Metal" (General Metal) Closer to a Modified JCM800 w/more gain. Another difference is that you can get a mod on the PT of a simple clean channel. 186. Its been three years since I had one of these around and man do I mi. But, both are amazing, IMO. It's all about vintage classic rock tones, with less of the high-gain action of the Taco. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Talk with your fellow tone freaks on the web's liveliest (and friendliest!) Yall know how I feel about amps,brother! I don't know what low gain means. WTF! Dilemma: Dirty Shirley Mini or Pink Taco? | The Gear Page All rights reserved. OK, I know a little bit about both amps and this is what I can tell you. Aug 27, 2017. Been eying the pink taco amp for a while but just noticed the dirty Shirley mini. FriedmanLittle Sister Head $1,499.99 Based on the demos I've heard my pick would be the JJjr. Making use of customized transformers, the head has been designed to sound like a much larger 100-watt EL-34 monster, promising both a tight bottom end and mid-range. They're loud man. I own a BE, Dirty Shirley 40, Dirty Shirley Mini and incoming Smallbox. https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/2536A. Those Wildwoods are impossible to find. I viewed some youtube comparisons and in one of them the breakup of the PT seemed a bit fizzier than the DS. WTS: Friedman Pink Taco PT-20 20 watt amp head. Friedman Amplification Little Sister Head & Pink Taco V2 The combo, meanwhile, is practically identical the same interior appointments and control set make the cut though makes use of a Celestion 16 Ohm 12 G12M-65 Creamback speaker. Both amps way over priced IMO. The Runt has that great clean sound (the only channel switcher of the three) and the DSM is known to many as their favorite Friedman amp. JavaScript is disabled. Although different tubes and rectifier in Dirty Sh. Flip the toggle downwards, with the master and the gain in the same spot, and youre deep in Marshallville, with opulently ripe mids and a profile that reminded me of Ritchie Blackmores epic early-70s sound. It's all about vintage classic rock tones, with less of the high-gain action of the Taco. Friedman Little Sister I bring it back and forth to our practice space because I need it at home. Friedman Announces the BE-Mini - Premier Guitar , Friedman Releases Pink Taco V2 Heads & Combos - Premier Guitar , First Look: Dunlop Cry Baby Daredevil Fuzz Wah, Dunlop and Daredevil Pedals Collab on Cry Baby Daredevil Fuzz Wah, Slave to Sirens: Lebanons First All-Female Thrash-Metal Band. DSM is more versatile and has better bass response from my experience. The Shirley is no retiring kid sister. Perhaps it's in the future. An 'ultra-transparent series FX loop' welcomes your time-based effects pedals to the party and there's 4, 8 and 16 ohm jacks. Your Preferred Price Friedman. You are using an out of date browser. The only pedal that performed differently in the loop was my OD, which needed a bit more output for unity. England and Wales company registration number 2008885. I'm gonna grab a Friedman 20 Watter and I like both of these amps(not really sold on the Runt). They are here to help. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Plays Well With Others? Both USA-made models offer head and and combo options. Boutique guitar amp builder Friedman has unveiled the latest additions to its amp head and combo catalogs: the Pink Taco V2 and Little Sister. You are using an out of date browser. And these are such simple amps, a good tech could crank out 5 - 10 of these a day easy (which bty, Friedman out sources). For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. My DSM isn't going anywhere. Ed A; Feb 17, 2022; November 2013. Bath I chose the Dirty Shirley Mini on December/2017 and I'm completely in love! They are all on my list! And the Friedman.well it could have been a Peavey or a solid state amp at that point. JavaScript is disabled. And the Marshall sounds exactly like an 800. Prince thought so, Watch Joe Bonamassa sit in with Scary Pockets and Joanna Jones for a funkified cover of Back In Black, Taylor and Original Grain Watches team up for some very classy wrist candy incorporating the high-end acoustic brands Urban Ironbark. If this is your first visit, be sure to Friedman Releases Pink Taco V2 Heads & Combos - Premier Guitar Marshall SV20 or Friedman Dirty Shirley Mini - The Canadian Guitar Forum The PT is a good amp, but as others stated, you can try to get Friedman to mod it more in the future also. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission. $339.99 Your Preferred Price Friedman. Guitar World is part of Future plc, an international media group and leading digital publisher. I've played a PT20. I've played a Runt 50 and they are great. Just my 2 cents, my opinion, take it for what it's worth. Its the little sister of Friedman Amplifications Dirty Shirley combo, which clocks in at 40 watts and 52 pounds, with a single 12" Celestion G12M Creamback speaker. DSM almost seems to have more clarity with a bit of low-end girth and punchy mids, just classic rock and blues tones for days. The new Friedman Little Sister Head is an updated Mini Dirty Shirley, and the Pink Taco V2 does the same for the Pink Taco head. In my opinion, unless you need to additional channel or functionality, you're going to get a LOT from the minis and you'll save a ton of cash. I dont want to derail the OPs thread, but I did have questions about these amps since there seems to be a lot of Friedman experience here. The power switch is a simple on/off with no standby. Bath The Pink Taco V2 is Dave's latest version of the 20-watt EL84 powered single channel fire breather. Friedman will add those mods if you like. FRIEDMAN20wMINI DIRTY SHIRLEY 20PT-20 . Hand wired is over rated. Re: Friedman Dirty Shirley Mini VS Pink Taco Personally, I'd hold out for a regular Dirty Shirley head and 212 cab. There I said it haha. Maybe the boards are made elsewhere? I think that i actually like the G12H-30 a bit more and have been getting great results with it from a variety of amps. Thats what the builder recommends in the manual, identifying that setting as the Friedman sound. I began with the gain/master at 5/5, and once I cranked the gain to 7, Id have been perfectly content if Id never touched a dial or switch again. Both of these 20-watt all-tube mini amp heads now have a few added controls. With each arriving in both amp head and combo formats, the brand's newest offerings update its existing Mini Dirty Shirley and Pink Taco units, promising to provide a swathe of versatile tonal options. (or not gigging). The Dirty Shirley Minis look is signature Friedman: a recessed control panel at the top rear, silver-and-black grille cloth, and a spare but elegant exterior, with black vinyl snugly fitted to its sturdy cabinet. Freidman Amps, Overdrive Pedals, & Electric Guitars | Cosmo Music It'll have more headroom too, and with 2 6L6's, the cleans may eliminate your need for another amp. Any guitarist who has lugged around 4x12s, Super Reverbs, or other heavy-ass combos and stacks in search of big, meaty tones can appreciate the trend toward small amps that snarl. How about a Scumback Black back 65? But, to make that comparison I would say the Mini DS is much more friendly to quiet environments than a Z (which I would say the opposite of). I have a Smallbox and a DSM. I personally just picked up a DS 40 head and I LOVE IT. Jul 11, 2017. lwk5150. Many of the above appointments can be found here, such as the two EL84 power tubes and three 12AX7 preamp tubes, as well as a fairly straightforward control set comprising Bass, Middle, Treble, Master and Gain parameters. There's a couple good Youtube videos of the PT vs DSM on Youtube. As a subscriber enjoy big savings off the shop price! No reverb, no line out, not even a standby switch. Premier Guitar features affiliate links to help support our content. PRESS RELEASE. These 3 guitar beauties from Friedman have a lot in common, not only names or visual appearance i.e. tone forum. Re: Friedman schematics. Dave designed the Pink Taco Mk II to sound like a 100 watt EL-34 guitar amp, with signature tight bottom end, using custom transformers and 'the clearest possible signal path.' Not very "chuggy" to describe differently. FRIEDMAN | Humbucker Music Hope this helps. Afraid I can't get to Wildwood. You must log in or register to reply here. 11 guitarists who shaped Derek Trucks' sound, Revv relaunches its Dynamis Series with US-voiced, Two Notes Torpedo-equipped D25 combo, Watch Dream Theaters Jordan Rudess sing the praises of the amazing LAVA ME 3 acoustic-electric guitar, Line 6 adds Dumble-style tones in free Helix firmware update sure to please fans of John Mayer, Joe Bonamassa and David Gilmour, Eric Andrs advice for aspiring upright bass players: Dont play it. PS, the Pink Taco is 1233 USD and the Suhr Badger 30 is 1490 USD. The Mini feels as if it could take a plunge at a load-in and still start right up (at least after the rush of horror from dropping a $1,799 amp faded). The Pink Taco has more of the upper mids that the Studio Vintage has, there are some Greg Koch clips kicking around where plays a bunch of Zeppelin riffs. Therefore, it may be a bit of a stretch. The 3-dial EQ is no-frills, but quite responsive. Messages. Should I sell the 20 for an Orange Tiny Terror? Friedman's definitely have that British Marshall sound and definitely a nice twangy clean channel as well, definitely more mid-range sound wise. I've got 60 guitarsbut 49 trumpets is justINSANITY! You must log in or register to reply here. Just listen to Pete Thorn's demo of the Pink Taco 20-watt head "no pedal required" indeed! I hear the PT20 is kind of a mine Brown Eye channel. Pros: If you are looking for AFD / ACDC the DSM has that in spades. This page was generated at 08:16 PM. As it reads basically. On its own.Friedman is better, warmer. MusicRadar is part of Future plc, an international media group and leading digital publisher. Try before you buy or make sure you can get a refund. In terms of tone, the Little Sister units have been set up to harness sparkling cleans and vintage crunch, with the amps promising to deliver everything from blues and rock to country just by adjusting its Gain, Master and switch controls. The toggle all the way up tells yet another story, with a brighter, gnarlier, more modern gain structuregood for gut-punching, chugging, and buzzing leads. Playing a rough-and-tumble gig in a small room with no amp miking, the Mini blasted along with my trio loud and clear . Future Publishing Limited Quay House, The Ambury, The USA-built cab features tongue and groove Baltic Birch construction, and the combo houses a 16 ohm, 12 Celestion Creamback G12M-65 speaker. From my experience still owning a BE100 and was looking for the best Friedman 20 watter that had more open classic tone and an amp I can get a killer blues and rock tones out of, I went with the Dirty Shirley Mini. Sorry Marshall I'll take a Dirty Shirley any day of the week Lol! Cleans up better than the PT20 I think. From the Pete Thorn video above it's clearly great for harmonically rich Eddie Van Halen tones. You are using an out of date browser. FriedmanLittle Sister Combo $1,799.99, FriedmanPink Taco V2 Head $1,499.99 Both my Brown Eye and Pink Taco are 240v and work and sound fab! The Pink Taco in the lowest gain setting I would say is more in the ballpark of the Studio Vintage than the Mini Dirty Shirley. I am somewhat intrigued by the PT but would only buy a used one when the price comes down. Friedman updates two of its classic amp models with Pink Taco V2 and I've had two tacos and two runts(50 and now a 20). check out the FAQ by clicking the Again, the combo differs only with the appointment of a Celestion 16 Ohm 12 G12M-65 Creamback speaker.
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